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Re: Admittance to SMU is harder than ever

Postby Mustangs_Maroons » Thu May 10, 2012 9:56 pm

CBpony wrote:I just got in, so it can't be that hard. I guess being in the army probably helped though.


Good job representing your new class! Hopefully the other classmates are more grateful and feel they had to work to get to this university where many people have moved on to great careers and have given back to the university to make it a better place for incoming students.
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Re: Admittance to SMU is harder than ever

Postby CBpony » Thu May 10, 2012 10:22 pm

My statement was in jest. I was overjoyed when I got in, I have always wanted to attend and now it's a reality. Can't wait to rep Pony Nation.
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Re: Admittance to SMU is harder than ever

Postby NavyCrimson » Fri May 11, 2012 8:17 am

Go Army! Great to have a vet at SMU!!! Welcome!!!
BRING BACK THE GLORY DAYS OF SMU FOOTBALL!!!

For some strange reason, one of the few universities that REFUSE to use their school colors: Harvard Crimson & Yale Blue.
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Re: Re: Admittance to SMU is harder than ever

Postby RednBlue11 » Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:00 pm

Comet wrote:With 13,800 apps, I wonder how many will get admitted.



Those figures are totally misleading as the average hs senior sends in apps to at least 5 colleges...I would like to know how many of those apps are 1st choice

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Re: Admittance to SMU is harder than ever

Postby Pony^ » Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:22 am

So, what happened to the 13,800 applications for the Fall 2012 class?

Number of applications for the Fall 2012 class: 11,217; admitted: 6031; enrolled: 1426.

Middle 50% SAT Stats --

CR 590 - 680
M 600 - 690

http://smu.edu/ir/Publications/Fact_Sheet_2012/Entering_First_year_2012.asp


Number of Applications for the Fall 2011 class: 10.338; admitted: 5641; enrolled: 1382.

Middle 50% SAT Stats --

CR 580 - 680
M 600 - 690

http://smu.edu/ir/Publications/Fact_Sheet_2011/Entering_First_year_2011.asp

I suppose they will say that approximately 2,583 students never bothered to complete their applications.
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Re: Admittance to SMU is harder than ever

Postby CalallenStang » Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:03 pm

Our yield was 25% - terrible given that a few years ago it was 34%. Got to increase that yield to help bring down the acceptance rate
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Re: Admittance to SMU is harder than ever

Postby CalallenStang » Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:04 pm

Pony^ wrote:I suppose they will say that approximately 2,583 students never bothered to complete their applications.


In other words, they did what they did
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Re: Admittance to SMU is harder than ever

Postby friarwolf » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:34 am

Incoming class average SAT score is 1274. Up from 1267 with a larger class admitted this year........Melt really hurt us this year...........
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Re: Admittance to SMU is harder than ever

Postby Mustangs_Maroons » Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:48 am

friarwolf wrote:Incoming class average SAT score is 1274. Up from 1267 with a larger class admitted this year........Melt really hurt us this year...........


What do you mean "melt" really hurt us? I think the goal is to get us to 1300 average sat in 2-3 years. I bet part of the discrepancy between the number of applicants is due to the fact that the link does not include transfer applications - but surprised the difference would be that much. We need to increase the number of good quality applicants (we have a good presence in CA, Florida) from the northeast as well (I think going to the BE will help provide some exposure).
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Re: Admittance to SMU is harder than ever

Postby Pony^ » Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:06 pm

Average SAT of 1274 seems about right although I have not seen that posted anywhere.

SMU says the average SAT last year was 1269:

http://smu.edu/ir/Publications/Trends_2011/First_Time_Admissions.pdf

Here is the breakdown of the top ten states represented in the Fall 2012 Class:

http://smu.edu/ir/Publications/Fact_Sheet_2012/Origin_Undergrad_and_First-year_2012.asp

I believe he is using the term "melt" to mean applicants who initially indicated that they would attend SMU, but later decided not to enroll because they were admitted off of a wait list somewhere else, received a better scholarship offer from another school, etc.
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Re: Admittance to SMU is harder than ever

Postby Mustangs_Maroons » Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:45 pm

Thanks for the clarification on the term "melt." Had never heard that before.

This is an updated report, which cites the 1274 average SAT score. Info is OK but whoever put this together needs a refresher in using powerpoint - they should jazz it up a bit. It also confirms the difference in applications vs. those completed. This large gap is surprising and should be addressed as the % of applicants is based on those completed. Doing this and helping to increase our yield a bit will do wonders for the acceptance rate.

https://smu.edu/provost/pdf/FacultySenateOct12.pdf
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Re: Admittance to SMU is harder than ever

Postby Pony^ » Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:12 pm

The decrease in yield is a function of SMU competing for higher quality students; better students simply have more options. Of course, a greater number of (and larger) merit based scholarships will help the cause.
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Re: Admittance to SMU is harder than ever

Postby Mustangs_Maroons » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:13 pm

Pony^ wrote:The decrease in yield is a function of SMU competing for higher quality students; better students simply have more options. Of course, a greater number of (and larger) merit based scholarships will help the cause.


Agree. At the end of the day, what matters is the student quality of students that apply and matriculate. Nevertheless, I think we can do certain things to improve our yield (financial assistance is certainly a key factor). At the end of the day, we want better student quality and lower admission rates.
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Re: Admittance to SMU is harder than ever

Postby SMU Pony Mom » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:20 pm

If you go to smu.edu and type Common Data Set into the search box, select the first result that comes up. You can then select 2012 (or any other recent year), and then first year admission you can see all the details regarding number of applicants, acceptances, wait list, sats,etc. You can easily compare results from different years.
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Re: Admittance to SMU is harder than ever

Postby bubba pony » Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:36 am

thanks SMU Pony Mom, I went to that site:

my daughters yearly cost 2008 to 2012 went up 16% freshman year versus senior year. amazing the raising cost of a college education.
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